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		<title>The Journey of a Christian Agnostic Theists: Thoughts on Christianity</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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Today Is an Interesting Day Because&#8230;&#8230;
&#8230;.behind the scenes I have about 4 or 5 articles I am working on that are on their way to being done but need elements out of my control to come into place before they can be complete. I have a podcast that I am yet to edit and I [...]]]></description>
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<p><span id="more-880"></span><strong>Today Is an Interesting Day Because&#8230;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>&#8230;.behind the scenes I have about 4 or 5 articles I am working on that are on their way to being done but need elements out of my control to come into place before they can be complete. I have a podcast that I am yet to edit and I have sent out quite a few invitations to interview people over the past week.</p>
<p><strong>The End Result</strong></p>
<p>The end result is that I have a wonderful back log of articles and podcasts and things in process, too much for me to want to move forward but little enough that it shouldn&#8217;t take me too long to clear up.While this vacuum exists I thought I would give you all some more thoughts as I have continued along <a href="http://www.thedisplacedafrican.com/category/my-spiritual-journey-and-ideas-on-matters-of-the-spirit/" target="_blank">my spiritual journey</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Why I&#8217;ll Never Leave the Church</strong></p>
<p>One thing that I can predict with a fair level of confidence and certainty is that I will probably never grow disillusioned with the church and/or with Christianity as I did in my teenage years and I will never leave the church. There are a couple of reasons for that:</p>
<p><strong>1) I never got taught, or rather never had sink in, the consumer mentality to Christianity:</strong> Growing up, I was taught about the immutable, unstoppable, never changing power of self-determination and that all through my life, I should always use that power to create my destiny. I guess I am one of those people who preachers would label, &#8220;That arrogant young man who thinks he can do everything himself.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if I can but I certainly know that I am going to take responsibility for the results I achieve in my life.</p>
<p><strong>2) Christian people are hands down, the most loving and silmultaneously nicest people I have ever met: </strong>A lot of people who become disillusioned with the church do so because they feel condemned, judged, unloved and unwanted by Christian people. I have never ever felt that. Until I was an adult, all my real-world (as opposed to celebrity or fantasy heroes) were Christian African women.</p>
<p>If you look through my heroes list, you&#8217;ll notice that one of them is <a href="http://www.thedisplacedafrican.com/153/my-heroes-erwin-mcmanus/" target="_blank">Erwin Mcmanus</a> (if anyone knows how I can get an interview with him&#8230;.do share) and I just love to consume and reflect and act on his podcasts and his ideas.</p>
<p>To put the full stop on this point, I don&#8217;t know if I have told this story before but what the heck, I will tell it again</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thedisplacedafrican.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/jesus.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-882" title="jesus" src="http://www.thedisplacedafrican.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/jesus.jpg" alt="" /></a></p>
<p><strong>She Listened, Really Listened</strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how one moment can mean so many different things to different people. I don&#8217;t think my aunty knows just how special that day was for me, and whenever I tell my mother the story, she always remarks:</p>
<blockquote><p>That&#8217;s nothing special</p></blockquote>
<p>Or something similar, but that truly was, one of the greatest days of my life.</p>
<p><strong>Disposable Teen</strong></p>
<p>So there I was, 16 years old, scared and angry. I remember walking into my aunty&#8217;s home for a visit. My aunty did something that no human being had never done before. She didn&#8217;t try to advise me. She didn&#8217;t try to give me solutions to my problems. She didn&#8217;t engage in discussion or debate. She just listened.</p>
<p>She listened as I talked about my crazy plans about buying a fleet of matatus (a fleet of mini buses) and using the revenue generated from this venture to fund a school where the poor and marginalized youth of Africa would learn not only about the political process but would be equipped to answer the question:</p>
<blockquote><p>How can I use the current global and political system to the benefit of my community and myself?</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember if that was the exact thought I told my aunty so many years ago, but whatever it is I said, she listened. I remember she fed me delicious sandwiches and tea and for a couple of days just let me talk. It&#8217;s amazing how the Angel Gabriel&#8217;s love for Mary can be felt just by his merely sitting next to her&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry if you read this and don&#8217;t see what&#8217;s so special either, just know it was truly one of the best days during one of the best periods of my life, and she was there.</p>
<p>She was in that moment, the salt and light of my world.</p>
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<p><strong>Where this Spiritual Journey is Going?</strong></p>
<p>I know I am not alone on this one, but I often fantasize about being interviewed. My favourite platforms are either a town hall meeting, a speech I am making to thousands of people or an appearance on Enough Rope with Andrew Denton, and many a time, I have fantasized about being asked that very question in the sub-healdine.Here now is my smooth-as-Taye-Diggs-eloquent-as-MLK answer:</p>
<blockquote><p>The way I see my life headed, I will probably end up the born again founder my own church dedicated to two things:</p>
<p>a) The upliftment and dignity of young African  boys and men</p>
<p>b) Taking action: Every sermon will end with everyone either doing something to improve their lives or the lives of the members of the community or it will become compulsory with attendance that you must take action after every service and are accountable to other members of the congregation.</p>
<p>I would weed out all the passive watchers and remain with just passionate people committed to taking action and being angels among men.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, I have been asked to lead my bible study group this Thursday so that might be the begining of all of this&#8230;&#8230;.watch this gap in the time space continuum.</p>
<p>My oddly tired brain is telling me those are enough ideas for now.</p>
<p>Have a fantastic week,</p>
<p>Mwangi</p>
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		<title>The Journey of a Christian Agnostic Theist: The Teenage Years</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mwangi</dc:creator>
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The images that I found for this post, and that I left out are simply breathtaking&#8230;.wow!
First of all, what a mouthful that is. To explain just what all this means I will refer you to Yahoo Answers:
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<p><strong>The images that I found for this post, and that I left out are simply breathtaking&#8230;.wow!</strong></p>
<p><span id="more-460"></span>First of all, what a mouthful that is. To explain just what all this means I will refer you to <a href="http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070612080239AASQNv2">Yahoo Answers</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>An agnostic Christian is a part of the agnostic theists. This means that this person is an agnostic (believes that the existence of god cannot be known by humans) but chooses to follow the Christian religion in spite of their agnosticism.<br />
Theism is the belief that gods or deities exist, while Agnosticism is the belief that the existence of gods are unknown or inherently unknowable. Belief is defined as a conviction of the truth of a proposition without its verification. Agnosticism does not violate this, and this definition of theism does not violate agnosticism, implying that it is possible to be both theist and agnostic.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>My Faith Journey<br />
</strong><br />
And so, this Sunday morning, I thought I would give you a glimpse into my faith journey. Where me and religion have come from and where we&#8217;re going. Maybe you&#8217;ll see a little bit of yourself in my story. At the very least, you&#8217;ll know where I am coming from whenever I write on matters of the spirit. It is a convoluted tale that hops and skotches to and fro: it&#8217;s a story so I&#8217;ll allow it to meander.</p>
<p><strong>Childhood Debauchery</strong></p>
<p>The first person who introduced religion and faith to me clearly did not study marketing in this consumer-driven world. Had I first been introduced to Christianity in Australia, the Displaced African would probably have been the Displaced Prophet or Salt of the Earth: Aussie Version or something similar.</p>
<p>I have no idea who it was, but I remember when I was very young getting it into my head that Christianity was about denial of sensual pleasures in order to please God who would burn me in hell if I didn&#8217;t follow his commands.</p>
<p><strong>Now this is True, But&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
</strong><br />
You don&#8217;t get people to come through the doors of the church like that. Honestly, no one is as good at bringing people through the door (and losing them over time) as the Western church. From missionaries who have managed to convert almost the entire global South, to even the way churches in a country like Australia run, they understand how to speak to people&#8217;s self interests and how to place God as the solution to YOUR personal problem.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thedisplacedafrican.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/hallway.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-462" title="hallway" src="http://www.thedisplacedafrican.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/hallway.jpg" alt="" /></a></p>
<p><strong>I Digressed There&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
</strong><br />
So, in short, me being the rebel that I was, never really wanted to say that I got saved out of fear. In addition to that, I kind of saw religion as a woman&#8217;s religion one time and other times as something practiced by a peer group that I did not want to impress -though a lot of them were so nice and I loved, still love, being around them.</p>
<p>Now, I am far from alone in having a childhood like this. My native homeland is (I put this in heavy quotes) &#8220;80% Christian&#8221; last I heard. Meaning whether or not we are born again Christians, most of us have grown up around the church or church goers and have some type of Christian understanding of God. And yet, a lot of us are not born again.</p>
<p><strong>I Finally Got Born Again</strong></p>
<p>When I was a teen, the sermon, the music, the people and the message were just aligning like they never had and I made a decision:</p>
<blockquote><p>I was going to take up my cross and follow Him</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll never forget our so-awesome-I-can&#8217;t-help-grinning-when-I-type-this sunday school teachers pulling us (about 3 or 4 of us) aside and giving us a talk. They showed us a book that was made of many different colours but no words. Each colour represented a different part of one&#8217;s spiritual journey with black being darkness and gold being heaven if I remember correctly. And so feeling super-great that I made a great decision that day I stepped out of sunday school a saved boy.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thedisplacedafrican.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/dove.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-463" title="dove" src="http://www.thedisplacedafrican.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/dove.jpg" alt="" /></a></p>
<p><strong>It Lasted for &#8230;&#8230;<br />
</strong><br />
&#8230;maybe 3 hours. Again the problem was not only in the way folks marketed the faith to me but how I viewed the faith now that I was born again: denial of pleasure. I still didn&#8217;t see the higher positive purpose in pursuing anything spiritual.<br />
I remember getting home and sitting in front of the TV staring at my Playstation.<br />
I was now born again and I knew that playing violent wrestling games was bad: Would I deny myself that pleasure? I didn&#8217;t. And so the descent began&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p><strong>I Have Been Baptized By the Way</strong></p>
<p>I was baptized about a week later on Valentine&#8217;s Day 2000. By this point I had slid so far back into the secular I had formed my own secular state. The only reason I got baptized was because I wanted to have a house party and invite all the girls.</p>
<p>Things went full circle and now I was how I was in the begining: a kid who didn&#8217;t want to convert because he thought he would be missing out on too much.</p>
<p><em>To be continued&#8230;&#8230;..</em></p>
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