Comments on: The Journey of a Christian Agnostic Theists: Thoughts on Christianity

By: kenya.fm

kenya.fm — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:26:58 +0000

@Mwangi

Thanks for the opportunity.

My service is to give bread to those children who are hungry. If i come upon grown-ups who have eaten, but whiling away time discussing what is better for desert ( e.g Evan), then i know i am in the wrong place.

So any time i am here and i see such said children (e.g. Kelly.), i will offer bread.

By: Mwangi

Mwangi — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:54:21 +0000

@kelly: They are posted in this article here: http://www.thedisplacedafrican.com/901/discussion-about-one-of-the-greatest-books-of-the-bible/

By: Mwangi

Mwangi — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:53:08 +0000

@kenya fm: I really don’t want to hold you here if you feel this place is not right for you. I think the only words I would leave you with, is I would ask you to conduct a mental exercise and reflect a little bit about the life of Jesus and just how many arguments,disagreements he had over the course of his brief life and how often he was the only one going against the grain and doing something different.
The initials are WWJD (What Would Jesus Do), correct? Me thinks if you read the Bible the answer is pretty clear…..JC was many things but a diplomatic politician isn’t one.

By: kelly

kelly — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:06:51 +0000

Mwangi, waiting for those notes! I just came from our sister church, Nairobi Chapel, Mavuno, and I loved it. It just reminded me that the reason I believe is not out of fear of going to hell but because believing makes me a better person here on earth.

@kenya fm, I don’t see why you should feel like you’re hurting people, this is just a discussion, nothing’s personal.

By: kenya.fm

kenya.fm — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:04:55 +0000

@Evan
I am sorry i can not continue with this. As i said, i am clearly in the wrong place.

By: Evan

Evan — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:38:24 +0000

Hi Kenyafm,

My feelings aren’t hurt if it’s me you’re worried about.

I just want you to address the contradictions in your position. Please address how you plan to integrate Jesus word’s and Paul’s. I take the position that they are both correct. The distinction of sacred and secular is not a Biblical one. The point of Jesus saying is that the secular is taken up by the sacred. This was the point of the glory of the nations going into the New Jerusalem.

The distinction between the sacred and profane is not the sacred and secular. The difference in the profane and the secular is not a particular kind of activity.

In your example the christian can be a herd boy as easily as a muslim or secularist or atheist (this is the point of Jesus’ saying).

As to the children of the devil advising the sons of the father: this is exactly what Jesus advised. I don’t see any distinction in scripture between life and death on earth and real life and death. Jesus saying seems to cut across this distinction to me.

By: Mwangi

Mwangi — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:07:22 +0000

@kenya fm: No, no ones feelings were hurt my friend. It is a friendly spirited debate. I can show you what hurtful, unfriendly discussions look like and here on tDA its for the most part positive discussion, do don’t worry about it, stay and let’s continue by discussing my bible study.

By: kenya.fm

kenya.fm — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:03:39 +0000

@Mwangi

Thanks for the posts that bring discussions…. i am out of here. I think i am in the wrong place. And i think i will be hurting people’s feelings, and challenging their beliefs, so it is better i leave.

By: Mwangi

Mwangi — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:30:55 +0000

@kenyafm and Evan and Pink M: Let’s continue the discussion…..I lead the bible study and soon I will be posting up my notes and some quick thoughts that came out of it.

By: kenya.fm

kenya.fm — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:58:08 +0000

@Evan
” the children of this world are often wiser – and there is nothing wrong in listening to wisdom.” : In matters touching on basic life on earth, yes, listen

BUT In matters touching to real LIFE and DEATH, NO. Listen at your own peril ( 1 Cor 3:18)

” Stop deceiving yourselves. If you think you are wise by this world’s standards, you need to become a fool to be truly wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God. As the Scriptures say,

“He traps the wise
in the snare of their own cleverness.”

And again,

“The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise;
he knows they are worthless.””

Evan, how many of the Nuclear scientist would invite a Turkana herd boy to assist in design the next nuclear weapon? Not that there is anything wrong with being a herd boy. it is just that in that domain, the things are way above his head. Same way, you do not ask a child of the devil to give moral advice to sons of the Father.

He who has an ear let him hear.