Comments on: Here’s Why Everybody Should be a Polygamist

By: Eric

Eric — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:43:44 +0000

I need to make a correction, David was CROWNED king as a boy, and took the THRONE many years later when Saul was slain in battle by an oposing force.

David married several women after becoming an adult and the lord blessed and strengthened him before and after becoming king including directing him by the input of the prophet at the time. And again he was not condemned in his behavior until he took another mans wife and murdered him to cover it up.

By: Mwangi

Mwangi — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:09:50 +0000

@Eric: To summarize my response to your comment, I shall just say, “Word!”…I agree

By: Eric

Eric — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:39:44 +0000

Mwangi and Ginger. Seems both of you are prety accurate in your perseptions of each other. Mwangi you feel that polygamy is about having sex with more women and Ginger thinks that is what it means to you. Sure it means sex, and if that is all it means to you then I am saddened by it. God himself has condoned and condemned the practice of polygamy at different points in history.

Lets take a look at the best example of both shall we? DAVID , king of Israel and polygamist from long before he became king. God had him crowned as king and at the time he had atleast 3 wives. Nothing was said ill of his wives at that time. However, later on he began to lust after women, his own wives were not enough for him, he wanted the wife of his neighbor , and who was she? Bathsheba.

What was the lords reply to him? He rebuked him for being so selfish, pointed out to him what had been given and that he would be so greedy as to rob his neigbor of his one jewel. Not only that, he had that neighbor murdered to cover it up.

So, , Two things to learn from this fellow. One, God does approve of polygamist marriages that are loving, and not for selfishness, such as more sex, ownership, or any such basal desires.

second, , He does NOT condone it for said selfish reasons, nor does he condone entering into it by wickedness.

As to talking about Christs time, polygamy was a part of the jewish culture then. Roman culture was strictly monogamous, writings indicate that the jews wanted to lessen the hatred of their roman masters and began trying to emulate them. This of course being some not all.

The apostles address the subject when talking about bishops, due to the burden of being a bishop, they advised he should have but one wife. If there were not members of the church with more than one wife, why would they even address the subject?

Now this all being said, Marriage is something most sacred, solemn and wonderful. Something to be entered into with all the atributes of affection for one another that God would have us feel within us. Why would he want such things? Simple, were not here just for now, were eternal beings, were going to see God after this life and be with him there as well.

I find it amusing that people think marriages are for this life only, , when you consider the words of Ginger, what was Gods very first commandment to man? Why to be with his wife of course. God commands us for more reasons than one, children of course are a part of this life, and I believe they will be of the next as well.

Having children in a family that is full of love, one to another, true love, not fake selfish crap, and certainly not just to apease ones lebido is what makes a family whole.

By: Mwangi

Mwangi — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 07:57:53 +0000

@Ginger: On the Biblical thing, there is no way you can convince me God was against it. The man who was “the father of his nation”, Abraham had many wives. The man who was the wisest man who ever lived, many wives. The man who was the ancestor of his only begotten son, David, many wives.
And God always made it pretty clear when he didn’t like a practice, its not part of the 10 commandments, Jesus Christ didn’t rewrite this rule and since before then and after then polygamist cultures have always outnumbered monogamous cultures.
I think for women to get into criticism of men for their sexuality is like a man insulting a woman for the burden of bearing children, a cheap shot simply because we can, so I think I’ll avoid that area.
On this one, we will simply have to agree to disagree until someone brings me the verse where God said having one wife is the ideal and having many is evil.

By: Ginger

Ginger — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:29:48 +0000

Ok…then understand in the old testament the ways of the world were completely different before the coming of Christ. Populating the world was a main focus and doing so meant long lives and different goals. Who knows…maybe there was a shortage of men vs. women and polygomy solved the problem. We don’t know all the truths, because we weren’t there. One thing that cannot be questioned ever is what the Lord said as I quoted before. He purposely said a man leaves his family to be one with his wife – not wives. That was the ultimate goal whether played out that way or not – just as Adam and Eve there is to be one man and one woman in the union of marriage. Remember – free will is ours and this does not mean we follow the ways of the Lord always. Most humans base their behaviors by their interpretations – and that means what feels most comfortable to them.

Sex drives have nothing to do with this issue, but because men focus on sex often, this type of lifestyle works wonders for them. Who wouldn’t like variety? Even women get tired of the same old thing more than you know.

Regardless of a person’s beliefs, whatever way you choose to live your life is up to you. It is not me that you have to face one day, but the Lord. I am not here to judge, I only go by what my heart tells me and that is where the spirit of the Lord resides.

By: Mwangi

Mwangi — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 03:57:57 +0000

@Ginger: Welcome to tDA Ginger.
Why is it that people keep rebutting by quoting the Bible. If you read the Bible just a few chapters out from the verse that you have just quoted and many books after that, Jehovah was 100% behind polygamy and I defy you to name me 3 great figures of the Old Testament Bible who weren’t polygamist – I know there were a couple though the only biblical figure I can think of is Joseph father of Christ from the NT. So I think quoting the Bible as defense for monogamy is rather odd.

I don’t think men and women should be judged by the same standards, their needs and wants are so different and the way we go about achieving them is so different. Women don’t have the same sex drives men do. Men don’t have the same maternal, nurturing instincts that women do. Women are drawn to men of value and substance at the core. Men are drawn to looks, sensuality and femininity at the core. That having been said, men and women both do get jealous so you do bring up a point where there is potential for huge problems, as has been shown by the other preceding comments.

But the society we live in does have the problems described above, problems that aren’t as prevalent in a system that has existed longer and in more places than monogamy, short of a ginormous mind shift can you think of any other solution

By: Ginger

Ginger — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 03:47:09 +0000

Well, hell’s bells! In today’s society, women have exploded themselves so much that women like myself are left to try and stand tall with morals and not be considered one of the groupies. Multiple wives, well lets just break that down to “multiple holes” to stick your dick in. Men like variety right? And, they like to procreate…makes them feel superior. Unfortunately, not all men like the responsibilities.

So, lets turn this around. Why is it that men can have multiple wives? How about women having multiple husbands that take care of her? Actually, I would perfer multiple men and not husbands. One man can be the lovemaker -whoever is the largest and most robust. The other man can be the nuturer towards me, etc.

All joking aside, I do not believe in multiple marriages. This is called imbalance and we have enough of that in today’s society. God said the man will leave his family and become one with his wife – not wives!

By: Eric

Eric — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:00:06 +0000

A.T. , Your points are valid ones. However Mwangi has a point as well. Take my parents for example, my father had 8 wives total at one time, he had sex with all of them and none of them had or have AIDS. Aids does not come from magic, you do not magically get infected, instead you get it from someone who carries it.

So if none of your wives have it and you do not, then none of you will get it. Jealousy is a problem with Polygamy and it can and will destroy a family if left to grow. It takes a lot of trust, understanding and desire to be in such sintuations for them to work especially well.

The first thing that has to work is communication between everyone, and a willingness to do so. Each wife must be able to share her feelings freely and not feel like she is of lesser value than anyone else. Further no wife should be of lesser value in anyones mind, the same goes for the husband, each wife needs to love him as much. Now granted that is Ideal, which is not going to happen often. Just like any family issues and problems arrise.

IF each woman KNOWS she is really loved by the man she loves and she cares for her sister wife, then things DO work well. I know, because my mothers get along very well, even after my dad’s death, so it was not like they pretended to be friends or something to get along.

By: Mwangi

Mwangi — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:39:24 +0000

@A.T.: Kenya, my home country, is one of the countries with the highest AIDS rates on Earth and its a monogamous culture. Zim also has a pretty high AIDS rate; I think second or third in the world and from what I can see its also a monogamous culture.
South Africa, which is also one of the top nations, is monogamous. Botswana…..well, that’s just another tale entirely.
Unless there’s something I am missing, which I highly doubt, AIDS has become an epidemic in this modern world where Africa has adapted to its own warped version of monogamy where a man has one wife but many girlfriends on the down low.
Back to point I was making, if polygamy were allowed, some have made the case that AIDS would go down because everyone would know everyone’s sex partners because the man would have no reason to hide his other girlfriends, he’d just integrate them into his family.

By: A.T.

A.T. — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:19:13 +0000

First of all I think that most of the people that believe in polygamy are forgetting to see the big picture; AIDS. Do some of you not realize that AIDS and SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTIONS are a consequence of polygamy. Anybody with an ounce of common sense would appreciate this. And also and the end of the day it is the nature of the beast to be jealous of you significant other screwing someone else; whether your male, female, gay, lesbian or bi-sexual. Nobody likes to share someone that they truly love, because whether you believe it or not somebody is going to get the shorter end of the stick and be neglected. You can talk all the other bull shit all you want!! But please lets keep it real, and stop being ideal. Those poygamy practices are a thing of a past. AIDS was not an epidemic 100 years ago but it is now, and AFRICA is suffering from this epidemic in great numbers, because of these ignorant beliefs of having multiple sex partners. Get over it, and learn how to control sex drive, if you cared anything about yourself or your health you would not play around with your life. AIDS is real and it kills!!!